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Interview: Olivier Baujard of Alcatel-Lucent
01 July 2008
People in the West are accustomed to the benefits of technology, says Alcatel-Lucent's Olivier Baujard, but it makes the difference between having a decent life or not, he tells Alan Burkitt-Gray
There are some glorious ironies in this business. In his interview with Global Telecoms
Business, Thierry Bonhomme of France Telecom's Orange Labs
on the edge of Paris says he has a unit of the labs in Boston
so that it is close to the world of Bell Labs.
The industrial break-ups of telecoms in the 1980s in the US and
the consolidation of the industry over the past few years mean
that Bell Labs — the home of much of the innovation
that has changed our world, including the transistor and the
integrated circuit — is now part of
And the person in ultimate charge of Bell Labs, the chief
technology officer of Alcatel-Lucent, is based just a few
kilometres from Orange Labs, right in the centre of
Olivier Baujard was appointed Alcatel's CTO in January 2005 and
became CTO of the whole of Alcatel-Lucent when the merger with
Lucent became official two years later. He's also been CEO of
Alcatel-Lucent France since January 2008.
The technological inventions from Bell Labs at Murray Hill, New
Jersey, have transformed the world by bringing innovations such
as the transistor and the communications satellite, as well as
the Unix operating system and Claude Shannon's information
theory, work in today's Alcatel-Lucent will continue to change
"People in this industry have a passion," says Baujard. "It's
about creating a new lifestyle. "You're innovating the service
business or you're bringing modern life into developing
countries. It makes the difference between having a decent life
or not having a decent life."
In the west we are so accustomed to the benefits of technology.
"We may even be a little cynical about them from time to time,"
But thanks to telecoms, emerging nations are developing faster
than could have been imagined, he says, and at lower cost.
"That's part of the excitement. There's a sense that this
industry can help the well being, globally, of poor
We turn from emerging markets to the world at large. What are
the key innovations that Alcatel-Lucent will have to manage
over the next few years?
"We are moving towards true broadband wireless," says
Baujard, who believes there is room in the market for both LTE
and WiMax. It's wrong to say there's a confrontation, he says,
but there is competition. "This isn't a problem. Given the size
of the market it's not that much of a challenge."
At least, says Baujard, there are only two standards. "The
challenge of having several standards is not that much of a
challenge — especially if it is just LTE and
Alcatel-Lucent has already supplied 22 commercial WiMax
networks and is working on 70 trials. "We understand there are
300 WiMax networks around the world which are deployed or in
trial so that means we are in close to one out of three."
What will be the basis of the choice between WiMax and LTE:
technical reasons, frequency allocations, and so on, he
suggests. "There is a more structured view of the future than
there was two or three years ago."
Mobile TV optimism
And the other area he's optimistic about is mobile TV, he
says. "I am very optimistic. I am convinced there is potential
for additional attractive services for mobile."
Over the next five years he believes that there will be rise in
the demand for content over mobile, especially as power
consumption of the chips falls, so that batteries can last for
about three hours' daily use, "which starts to be reasonable",
There will need to be a combination of 3G channels that are
unicast to each consumer as required and mass-market digital
channels that are broadcast. The bandwidth is not there for
everything to be unicast, he notes: once there are seven or 10
simultaneous unicast users in one cell, its HSDPA capacity will
become saturated, just for TV.
"There will be a need for broadcast capacity", integrated into
the on-screen programme guide, says Baujard. "From the end
user's perspective it doesn't show, but it will make a
difference to the network."
Beyond mobile, the next decade will be the full IP decade, he
says. Backhaul for WiMax and LTE will help, but everything is
moving to IP. "In five years all the decisions will be taken,
and in 10 years all the deployments will be made," he says. "It
will be a true network end to end transformation."
Operators will need to reconfigure their networks, to manage
traffic. "That's good for us. All the capabilities of IP
end-to-end that were developed for fixed are now being
transferred to wireless. That is a big opportunity for us."